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UFOs, Dulce Base, Area 51–Norio Hayakawa Interview Pt.1 Excerpt

Karl the Webmaster here. Yesterday, John and I were thrilled to conduct the first of what we hope will be many interviews with one of the leading lights of modern UFO research, the erudite and always interesting Norio Hayakawa, considered by many in the UFO field to be the dean of Area 51 research. Norio was leading “expeditions” to the now-restricted locations around Area 51 long before it became chic to do so. His explorations and investigations themselves have become part of the fascinating lore surrounding Area 51.

Just press the orange button below to hear the excerpt!

Today, Norio lives in New Mexico – the one place on earth he considers to be “the key” to unlocking the UFO mystery – where he continues to do his research into UFOs, cattle mutilations, abductions and much more.

What's available here is a sample of the raw recording as it happened, only edited for sound levels. The complete, 1 hour recording is currently available only to JKI/SA members. Just click the link! We will eventually have the recording up on podcast sites, such as iTunes, but doing so takes scarce time on my end, and John and I thought JKI/SA subscribers would value having the informational content now, rather than waiting weeks for all the time consuming post production stuff to be done.

archuleta mesa dulce nm mapAs John and Norio were catching up – they had not spoken at length in many years – the subject inevitably turned to the Dulce base mystery, which Norio has been carefully investigating for some time.  For those that don't know, Dulce is a small town near the enormous Archuleta Mesa, which straddles the New Mexico-Colorado line, an area long associated with strange goings-on.

But the area is also rumored to be one of the locations where a deep underground military base (DUMB) is located, one which has a particularly unsavory history and purpose (if accounts are correct). The late Phil Schneider claimed to have been involved in a shoot-out with ETs inside the base, and over the years footage, pictures and stories have leaked seeming to support the contention that extremely disturbing and upsetting activities take place there.

In this must-hear interview, Norio reveals shocking new information about the “Dulce secret base” and it's history. Another shocker concerns the Atomic Energy Commission. Did you know it nuked the United States in 1967? Listen to the audio to learn more.

Future interviews will delve deeper in these and related subjects, including much more on Area 51. Again, you can access the full 1 hour interview on JKI/SPECIAL ACCESS.

For those that can't get enough, here is Norio from an interview in 2013…


John Kettler is the author of Extreme UFO Crash Recovery and UFOs, Antigravity, Vimanas & Mystics. Purchase of these books helps support this site.

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Serviceman and woman need to be rewarded for Dulce discoveries some of which have been taken used to drone aircraft and trigger hedge funds and detonate explosives remotely. The onion router taken from the Pentagon when it was hit by a plane was taken to the Hilton in New Rochelle, N.Y. to create a private war room for Warren Christopher. Why did Warren end up with the U.S. Navy’s and Air Force technology? Here the Clinton Foundation can manage hedge funds for 100 Women Investors. They use the drone technology to steal, create fires, and kill high valued target then… Read more »

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Grateful,

Rewarded for what Dulce discoveries?

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Fiber optics, gyrochip, used to make onion router (initiation machine) that was intended for the Pentagon’s U.S. Navy command center. We have to get it back, this machine. Until then, we are compromised.

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Grateful,

TOR stands for The Onion Router and is one download away for anyone’s use. Drives NSA crazy. It’s software, so I don’t get your concern over some hardware item.

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Yes it is a server, but it is controlled privately between 3 close locations in N.Y. and Canada. I am surrounded by a circle of danger, not an emergency, yet. I too am being closely watched, Assasins Creed tatoo, drug gang members connections, and maybe 4 or 5 others. But, I managed to find this article, regret I have not time to go deeply into this. But, I noticed that the patent pools which were applied for in the year Base 1 technologies applied for a patent thicket in 1998, 2 years after they acquired tech from the Pentagon (Server… Read more »

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Grateful,

I haven’t gone through more than a few pages of the academic paper, but I must say it’s a considerable improvement over much you’ve provided in the past.

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This is what Clintons did after this came up missing.

Plus, other patent thickets we need to remember, she is a patent attorney so is Michelle Obama.

http://freebeacon.com/blog/oh-denny-boy-how-the-clintons-helped-an-irish-telecom-tycoon-makes-millions-in-earthquake-ravaged-haiti/

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Grateful,

Again, relevance?

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Area 51 New Mexico is the area the next strike may be. The Jade Helm which appears to our military people as being a legitimate exercise will be hijacked. The writers of the script for Jade Helm exercise is a company called ICE, Inc.. But, what will happen is there will be a script change to Loretta Lynch’s, script where you will see a whole new false crew after the strike. Just like the strike on the Pentagon’s U.S. Navy Command Center where 1st responders (theirs – FBI imposters) will seize evidence of this crime before legitimate responders arrive. White… Read more »

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According to the patent thicket article I left you, patents for 1998 were B.729 Telecom/ Sipro (France, Korea, Netherland) , both given 3652, and the second, DVD-3c, Phillips, (Korea, France, and Canada). Could this be what was stolen? What ever was stolen in the Pentagon, it was patented in 1998, and these two were right next to each other and had identical i.d.s., 3652, both defacto, not sure what that means. Just want to note that Telecom was the company that Bill Clinton used when setting up deal for a Haiti Hilton Hotel (Red Switch Network, in center of hotel)… Read more »

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The TOR (uninterruptible) network is the network secured that set up $50 Billion dollars through many banks handled by HSBC (drug hub banker) pressed to set up, Kristine Marcy created AT program, through the Small Business Administration. Kristine Marcy CEO shrank the loan application time to under 60 minutes to approve a loan from SBA. During military , Base 1 Technologies applied for a loan on 9/11/2001 , filed for $5 million dollars over this TOR network, the guarantee is uninterceptable, the bank can liquidate the loan application in 60 minutes, this has enabled bad guys to use it for… Read more »

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During exercise Jade Helm look for, Rent-A-Car white van, possible Enterprise rent a cars and vans, white jets, plus people wearing FBI and Nike shirts all suspect (not really FBI) this is based on who was seen after Pentagon strike on Navy.

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Look for imposters during Jade Helm that work for AT companies, black, Hispanic, native, Asian Pacific Americans, sub-continent persons radicalized some may be recently released from prison, lets prevent the next hit which may be worse than 911.

We need to list these AT companies sent to spoil after next attempt to coup de ta, driving white vans(Rent-A-Car/ scrambling white jets/ wearing FBI and Nike shirts.

John Kettler
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Grateful,

Not remotely relevant to the post. Please stop or I’m going to begin circular filing this stuff.

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Grateful,

The factory which makes replacement heads for me is going to need to add a third shift given all this Mentris,TOR, ISIS, etc. stuff.

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If you want evidence for ISIS crimes just look for Rent-a-car vans.

Mentris is one of the matrix AT Small Business Administration cabinet, Mentris wrote the script for the Jade Helm exercise. How convenient, wonder who works for Mentris?

Pentagon needs to follow this tip TOR scam used to access Secret Slush Fund for covert political operations traced back to National Security Act.

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By having this, the bankers creation ISIS, CIA-NSA-Swiss Banks Allen Hamilton terrorist financed Secret Slush Fund for covert political operations.

The M-Fund (Secret Slush Fund) traces back to the National Security Act. NSA may not be able to monitor but they sure are benefitting from it.
HMMMMMMMMMM

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They can trigger explosive devices on say oil rigs such as BP platform in the gulf. I am not sure if this platform was being used as an anti-ufo weapon system you discussed here.

https://johnkettler.com/anti-ufo-weapon-destroyed/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bennett_Ramsey

John Bennett Ramsey joined the Navy in 1966. He went to Michigan State University whom I believe, won the race to create a single particle accelerator (the type that don’t catch fire) then worked for Access Graphics after coming back from the Phillipines (3 years). Access Graphics is a subsidiary of Lockheed Martin later sold to GE.

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FADEC – Full Authority Digital Engine Control http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FADEC Stolen from Boeing, through extortion in the sense that Boeing creates BUAP’s, but, the crown’s controllers who use this technology have hijacked this product’s use, and are trying to compromise Boeing, Honeywell, and Lockheed Martin’s reputation. These Netjet’s crown and French jet’s controllers hijacking airliners need oversight or accountability to humanity (over 1,000) deaths from 13 crashes, all of which except the bluebird. This technology was not to be used to crash 13 commercial aircraft? Boeing, Honeywell, and Lockheed’s skunk works are all in danger of being sued by companies to remove… Read more »

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Wish my dad were here, because someone has taken the droning technology, shrank it cellphone sized, so that it can be smuggled onto a commercial aircraft undetected in someone’s luggage. The electronics (bottom of the craft) are located near the luggage compartment, so easy to drive a plane once this device is stowed away. So, the problem is not just the BUAP and Tranquilizer tech. , this is how they are able to subdue the people in the craft. Then, this small device in the luggage which has a match in the jet or hijacker’s craft, can crash any airline,… Read more »

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Grateful,

What possible relevance does this have to my post? guess I’m going to have to start another omnibus thread!

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This is a story of Phil Schneider Dulce, New Mexico alien base alien-human battle.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/607504-alien-human-battle-of-1979-in-new-mexico-alleged-eye-witness-report/?photo=2

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I think it was a big B-52 with a huge spy lens. AFTER HE SAW THIS HE WAS CLASSIFIED.

I wish I would have asked him more about the desert sound project, not sure what kind of craft it was.
The bombs were to test how effectively they could explode bombs in the upper atmosphere, then space.

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Grateful, I don’t know anything about a B-52 with a giant lens for some huge camera. Shall ask, though. As for what happened regarding your father, with very few exceptions, people are not themselves CLASSIFIED. Famous emigre scientists working on the Manhattan Project had innocuous names lest their presence and associated skills give away the game. I strongly suspect that what happened was that he was either read into the program or collared by security, sweated for a while, made to sign terrible oaths with draconian penalties, threatened and told in no uncertain terms that he didn’t see anything, he… Read more »

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Got more on Dad’s conversion, F104 Starfighter (orange), Mach 1.79 jets and turned them into drones for Bomarc missile tests fired from White Sands, NM. He designed the PC board for the heat seeking guided missile that finds the F104. Was supposed to be top secret until someone spilled the beans at a bar near Eglin Air Force Base when dad and others Norad were carefully monitoring Cuba. Nazi bell high speed motor with a plasma core (mercury) 40,000 rotation creates a bubble around gravity may be old news now. These craft are being kept secret to keep this out… Read more »

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Grateful,

Bomarc was a conventional or nuclear armed (10 KT) ramjet powered long range (revolutionary) SAM intended to kill Russian bombers way before they got to US major cities. Your Dad’s QF-104 (“Q” designates drone) was a doubtless radar enhanced stand-in for same. Bomarc used onboard radar guidance to autonomously locate the target and attack it after a terminal dive (described at above link). consequently, I don’t at all understand the IR guided missile part of what you wrote.

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Thank you John Kettler. So, detailed you are. Brother said the speed of sound challenge was always important throughout the entire project. I got stuck on QF104 pictures looking for dad. Not one picture of him anywhere. Well, glad I loved him while he was alive, since I can’t find hide nor hair of him here on earth. Enjoy learning about him though, thanks.

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This one goes 2.35 Mach or 1,5550 miles/hour made by the Russians. My father would be impressed.

http://www.historyinorbit.com/the-top-18-fastest-planes-in-history/?utm_source=ob-nt-2&utm_medium=HistoryInOrbit.com-Desktop-US-FastestPlanesI&utm_content=blue&utm_campaign=The%20Fastest%20Military%20Airplanes%20To%20Ever%20Fly.%20Until%20Now%20This%20Has%20Been%20Kept%20A%20Military%20Secret%20%28Photos%29

You should go to Wright Patterson Air Force Base, brother said they have added 7 more buildings. Think I would not make it through all of them, but I am going to try, and an air show in Dayton. Great way to reconnect with my dad.

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First, in New Mexico, they droned these F104 or 5s. Gosh, I wish I new exactly the name of the guided missile he helped design out of Elgin Air Force Base. This technology was for defense not offense. I am afraid this technology and other pending patents are being used by cabal to control or for offensives purposes. These patents that were made in the U.S. Navy’s Research Lab and U.S. Air Force bases and are now mentored by Base 1 Technologies and proxied by the Crown of England. Why are our U.S. patents being protected or proxy by the… Read more »

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Here is an article describing how Airbus and Eurocopter are going to court over NSA spying. Could this be incorrect? http://rt.com/news/254777-airbus-lawsuit-bnd-spying/ This is a YT describing the boomerang grey craft in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Simon also states that was the Roswell craft. https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=RkQBjXTiMIw The blue light special at K-mart, you are so funny, is this how they give us heart attacks and/or switch us off when we are too irritating like Jeff Rense at rense.com who was turned off while he was driving. He says be sure to wear your seat belts in case this happens to us we… Read more »

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Grateful,

There are so many thoughts expressed here my head exploded in simply trying to read your omnibus comment. Please limit how many things you talk about at a time. It’s overwhelming such brain as I have!

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I understand